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Carole Fuseck
PIV below old fistula

Hello,

Yesterday a 66 y.o. WF with CKD in ICU needed a PIV for CT scan of the abdomen and I was called for assistance.  She has a working fistula to her left upper arm and a non-working fistula to her right upper arm.  The dialysis nurse was standing by to hook the patient up to hemodialysis immediately post-CT.  I know the Standard which states no venipuncture on the extremity containing an AV fistula or graft.    I told them she needed an IJ.  The patient was vomiting with abdominal pain and in some distress.  CT was waiting to take her after she had an IV.  There was a PIV to her right hand infusing and I told the nurse (quietly) that IV should come out.  I started the PIV to her right arm (non-working fistula) just below the antecubital with a #20 gauge using ultrasound guidance, but with instructions to remove immediately post CT and get an IJ in. 

What would anyone else have done?  What should I do next time?  I feel like I should have said "no" and get an IJ but with active vomiting I did not think that would happen.

Thank you.

Carole

lynncrni
 This is not a completely

 This is not a completely black and white issue. The INS Standard 33 Site Selection calls for knowledge of the stage of renal failure and a collaborative discussion with the patient, LIP about the choices of sites but it does not say "do not use any extremity with a fistula". In this situation, you have an extremity with a nonfunctioning fistula, a patient in serious need of a diagnosis, and hemodialysis ready to begin following the CT through a functioning fistula in the opposite arm. I certainly would have placed the PIV as you did and after a discussion with the nephrologist knowing the outcome of the CT and hopefully a more firm medical diagnosis, then decide what type of VAD would be required for the needed length of therapy. Lynn

Lynn Hadaway, M.Ed., RN, BC, CRNI

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Carole Fuseck
OK.  Thanks for your

OK.  Thanks for your insight.


Carole

Timothy Royer B...
I totally agree here. Keys:

I totally agree here. Keys: critical thinking and teamwork with all disciplines.

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